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Forerunner® 165 vs vívoactive 6

Size, specs & wrist fit compared

Garmin Forerunner® 165010-02863-20
Garmin Forerunner® 165
Garmin vívoactive 6010-02985-01
Garmin vívoactive 6
42.2mm × 42.2mmCheck offerView specs

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Which one fits you

Both need much the same wrist — roughly 44–61mm across the flat of the wrist. Neither will fit where the other won't, so decide on thickness, weight and features instead.

The Forerunner® 165 wears larger than the vívoactive 6 (43mm vs 42.2mm case), giving it more wrist presence — and needing a wider wrist to sit cleanly.

The vívoactive 6 is the slimmer of the two (10.9mm vs 11.6mm), so it slides under a cuff more easily.

On the wrist the vívoactive 6 feels lighter (23g vs 39g, case only).

The Forerunner® 165 is thinner than 86% of the 43mm watches we track and the vívoactive 6 than 84% of the 42mm ones — so both wear flatter than their widths suggest.

The Forerunner® 165 is 0.8mm wider, 0.8mm longer, 0.7mm thicker and 16g heavier than the vívoactive 6. Both are circular.

Forerunner® 165

vívoactive 6

Case width
43mm
42.2mm−0.8mm
Lug-to-lug
43mm
42.2mm−0.8mm
Thickness
11.6mm
10.9mm−0.7mm
Weight
39g
23g−16g

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Garmin Forerunner® 165

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Forerunner® 165

Garmin vívoactive 6

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vívoactive 6

Fit tool

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For sports watches, lug-to-lug (L2L) is what matters most — it decides whether a watch overhangs your wrist. Bulky is fine; overhang is not.

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≈ 146.9mm around

Garmin Forerunner® 165

Case 43.0mm · Lug-to-lug 43.0mm · Thickness 11.6mm · 39g

Balanced Fit

43mm on a 55mm wrist

10:09TUE 12lug to lug 43.0mmyour wrist 55.0mm

Comfortably inside the edges of your wrist, and it seats and sits low enough to wear without thinking about it.

On a 55mm wrist the sweet spot is 4753mm lug to lug. This one is 43mm, so you could go bigger.

How to Measure

Measure where you wear it, just below the wrist bone. Either of these works — the tool converts between them.

  1. 1. Flat width — arm flat on a table, palm up. Measure straight across the top of the wrist, bone to bone, ignoring the curve down the sides.
  2. 2. Around — a tape, or a strip of paper marked and held against a ruler, snug the whole way round.
Complete Wrist Measurement Guide →
Against one you know

Leather: Attaches at the lugs, so the case back rests on your skin. Thins and softens with wear. Typical figures, not this model’s own.

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  • Across the wrist6.0mm spare each side

    Comfortable, with visible skin either side.

  • Off the wrist11.6mm off the skin

    Normal sports-watch height for a wrist this size. (11.6mm case, back against the skin)

  • How it seats~4.4mm under the rim

    Seats well, with the case back following most of the wrist.

  • Weight on the wrist39g

    Light enough to forget you have it on. (0.7g per mm of wrist)

Garmin vívoactive 6

Case 42.2mm · Lug-to-lug 42.2mm · Thickness 10.9mm · 23g

Balanced Fit

42.2mm on a 55mm wrist

10:09TUE 12lug to lug 42.2mmyour wrist 55.0mm

Comfortably inside the edges of your wrist, and it seats and sits low enough to wear without thinking about it.

On a 55mm wrist the sweet spot is 4753mm lug to lug. This one is 42.2mm, so you could go bigger.

How to Measure

Measure where you wear it, just below the wrist bone. Either of these works — the tool converts between them.

  1. 1. Flat width — arm flat on a table, palm up. Measure straight across the top of the wrist, bone to bone, ignoring the curve down the sides.
  2. 2. Around — a tape, or a strip of paper marked and held against a ruler, snug the whole way round.
Complete Wrist Measurement Guide →
Against one you know

Leather: Attaches at the lugs, so the case back rests on your skin. Thins and softens with wear. Typical figures, not this model’s own.

Show the measurements
  • Across the wrist6.4mm spare each side

    Comfortable, with visible skin either side.

  • Off the wrist10.9mm off the skin

    Normal sports-watch height for a wrist this size. (10.9mm case, back against the skin)

  • How it seats~4.1mm under the rim

    Seats well, with the case back following most of the wrist.

  • Weight on the wrist23g

    Light enough to forget you have it on. (0.4g per mm of wrist)

2D Dimension Schematics

Every case drawn to scale on a shared centre — from above, and in profile against the wrist.

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From above — same centre, true scale
From the side — how far each sits off the wrist
  • Garmin Forerunner® 16543mm · 11.6mm thick
  • Garmin vívoactive 642.2mm · 10.9mm thick

3D preview

Forerunner® 165 vs vívoactive 6 on a wrist

Sized to your own wrist, turned any way you like.

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Shapes are built from published measurements, not manufacturer 3D models — accurate proportions, generic dial.

Battery life compared

Runtime for every power mode either watch publishes, 1 of them directly comparable.

Forerunner® 165vívoactive 6

  • Battery Saver Smartwatch

    20 days
  • Smartwatch

    11 days
    11 days
  • GPS-Only GNSS

    19 hours
  • All-Systems GNSS

    17 hours

Specifications

The short version

7 key specs
SpecGarminForerunner® 165Garminvívoactive 6
Case Width43mm42.2mm
Thickness11.6mm10.9mm
Weight39g23g
ShapeCircularCircular
Display typeAMOLED (optional always-on mode)AMOLED (optional always-on mode)
Battery lifeSmartwatch mode: Up to 11 days Battery Saver Smartwatch mode: Up to 20 days GPS-Only GNSS mode: Up to 19 hours All-Systems GNSS mode: Up to 17 hours See DetailsSmartwatch mode: Up to 11 days (5 days display always-on) Battery Saver Smartwatch mode: Up to 21 days GPS-Only GNSS mode: Up to 21 hours All-Systems GNSS mode: Up to 17 hours All-Systems GNSS mode with music: Up to 8 hours See details
Released20242025

Every specification

369 specs
SpecGarmin Forerunner® 165Garmin vívoactive 6
Overview
FamilyGarminGarmin
General
Battery lifeSmartwatch mode: Up to 11 days Battery Saver Smartwatch mode: Up to 20 days GPS-Only GNSS mode: Up to 19 hours All-Systems GNSS mode: Up to 17 hours See DetailsSmartwatch mode: Up to 11 days (5 days display always-on) Battery Saver Smartwatch mode: Up to 21 days GPS-Only GNSS mode: Up to 21 hours All-Systems GNSS mode: Up to 17 hours All-Systems GNSS mode with music: Up to 8 hours See details
Battery typeLithium ionLithium ion
Display Size1.2" (30.4 mm) diameter1.2" (30.4 mm) diameter
Color displayYesYes
Lens Materialchemically strengthened glass
Bezel Materialfiber-reinforced polymer
Memory/History4 GB8 GB
Strap materialsiliconesilicone
Charging methodGarmin proprietary plug chargerGarmin proprietary plug charger
Large font optionYesYes
Display resolution390 x 390 pixels390 x 390 pixels
Quick Release bandsyes (20 mm, Industry standard)yes (20 mm, Industry standard)
Weight23 g (36 g with included band)
Case materialfiber-reinforced polymer
Lens materialCorning® Gorilla® Glass 3
Physical size42.2 x 42.2 x 10.9 mm Fits wrists with a circumference of 125-190 mm
Bezel materialanodized aluminum
Sensors
GPSYes
CompassYes
GLONASSYes
GalileoYes
ThermometerYes
AccelerometerYes
Ambient light sensorYes
Barometric altimeterYes
Pulse Ox Blood Oxygen Saturation MonitorYes
Garmin Elevate™ wrist heart rate monitorYes
StocksYes
CalendarYes
PasscodeYes
CalculatorYes
ConnectivityBluetooth®, ANT+®, Wi-Fi®
Garmin ShareYes
Find My PhoneYes
Evening reportYes
Morning reportYes
Red shift modeYes
Weather forecastsYes
Smart NotificationsYes
Smartphone compatibilityiPhone®, Android™
Controls smartphone musicYes
On-device Connect IQ™ StoreYes
Plays and controls watch musicYes
Find My Phone during GPS activityYes
Pairs with Garmin Connect™ MobileYes
Compatible with Garmin Messenger appYes
Find My Garmin (helps locate lost device)Yes
Battery saver (customizable low power watch)Yes
Realtime settings sync with Garmin Connect™ mobileYes
View images from notifications on watch (Android™ only)Yes
Text response/reject phone call with text (Android™ only)Yes
Connect IQ™ (downloadable watch faces, data fields and apps)Yes
Product Info
Main SKU010-02863-20
Product ID1055469
Product NameForerunner® 165
Release Date2/20/2024
Product VariationBlack/Slate Gray
Clock Features
TimerYes
StopwatchYes
Time/dateYes
Alarm clockYes
GPS Time SyncYes
Sunrise/sunset timesYes
Automatic daylight saving timeYes
Sleepyes (advanced)
HydrationYes
BreathworkYes
MeditationYes
Fitness ageYes
Sleep coachYes
Health statusYes
Nap detectionYes
All-day stressYes
Women's healthYes
Health snapshotYes
Sleep alignmentYes
Respiration rateYes
Lifestyle loggingYes
Resting heart rateYes
Breathing variationsYes
Relaxation remindersYes
Abnormal heart rate alertsyes (high and low)
Relaxation breathing timerYes
Body Battery™ energy monitorYes
Heart rate (constant, every second)Yes
Cycling Features
CoursesYes
Compatible with Varia™ lightsYes
Compatible with Varia headlight cameraYes
Speed and cadence sensor support (w/sensor)Yes
Compatible with Varia™ radar (rear-facing radar)Yes
Alerts (triggers alarm when you reach goals including time, distance, heart rate or calories)Yes
Time and distance alertsYes
Auto rest (pool swim only)Yes
Underwater wrist-based heart rateYes
Basic rest timer (up from 0) (pool swim only)Yes
Stroke type detection (freestyle, backstroke, breaststroke, butterfly) (pool swim only)Yes
Pool swim metrics (lengths, distance, pace, stroke count, swim efficiency (SWOLF), calories)Yes
Open-water swim metrics (distance, pace, stroke count/rate, stroke distance, swim efficiency (SWOLF), calories)Yes
Running Features
Run workoutsYes
Running powerYes
Race predictorYes
Foot pod capableYes
Running dynamicsYes
Run/Walk/Stand detectionYes
Stride length (real time)Yes
PacePro™ Pacing StrategiesYes
Vertical oscillation and ratioYes
Ground contact time and balanceyes (but not balance)
GPS-based distance, time and paceYes
Course- and weather-specific race predictorYes
Cadence (provides real-time number of steps per minute)Yes
PinPointerYes
Tournament legalYes
Digital scorecardYes
Garmin AutoShot™Yes
Round timer/odometerYes
Yardage to layups/doglegsYes
Hazards and course targetsYes
Pairs with Garmin Golf appYes
Green View with manual pin positionYes
CT1 Automatic club tracking compatible (requires accessory)Yes
CT10 Automatic club tracking compatible (requires accessory)Yes
Yardage to F/M/B (distance to front, middle and back of green)Yes
Stat tracking (strokes, putts per round, greens and fairways hit)Yes
Measures shot distance (calculates exact yardage for shots from anywhere on course)automatic
What You'll Love
TouchscreenYesYes
Display typeAMOLED (optional always-on mode)AMOLED (optional always-on mode)
Water rating5 ATMSwim, 5 ATM
Garmin Pay™YesYes
Pulse Ox blood oxygenyes (spot-check, during sleep, all day)yes (spot-check, and optional all-day and in sleep)
Sleep score and insightsYesYes
Battery life (smartwatch mode)Up to 11 daysUp to 11 days (5 days display always-on)
TimerYes
StopwatchYes
Time/dateYes
Alarm clockYes
GPS Time SyncYes
Music storageYes
Wheelchair modeYes
Smart wake alarmYes
Sunrise/sunset timesYes
Automatic daylight saving timeYes
Activity Profiles
GymStrength, HIIT, Cardio, Elliptical Training, Stair Stepping, Floor Climbing
SwimPool Swimming, Open Water Swimming
CyclingBiking, Indoor Biking
WellnessWalking, Pilates, Yoga, Indoor Walking
Racket sportsTennis, Pickleball, Padel
Indoor runningTreadmill Running, Indoor Track Running, Virtual Running
Outdoor runningRunning, Outdoor Track Running, Trail Running, Ultra Running
Outdoor recreationHiking
AssistanceYes
Incident Detection during select activitiesYes
Incident detection alert on phone for wearablesYes
Swimming Features
Time and distance alertsYes
Auto rest (pool swim only)Yes
Drill logging (pool swim only)Yes
Countdown start (pool swim only)Yes
Underwater wrist-based heart rateYes
"Repeat on" rest timer (pool swim only)Yes
Basic rest timer (up from 0) (pool swim only)Yes
Stroke type detection (freestyle, backstroke, breaststroke, butterfly) (pool swim only)Yes
Pool swim metrics (lengths, distance, pace, stroke count, swim efficiency (SWOLF), calories)Yes
Open-water swim metrics (distance, pace, stroke count/rate, stroke distance, swim efficiency (SWOLF), calories)Yes
Outdoor Recreation
Auto restYes
TracBack®Yes
Back to startYesYes
Fish forecastyes (via Connect IQ™)
UltraTrac modeYes
Area calculationyes (via Connect IQ™)
Elevation profileYes
Total ascent/descentYes
Future elevation plotYes
Distance to destinationYes
Sun and moon informationyes (via Connect IQ™)
Point-to-point navigationYes
Rest Timer (Ultra Run only)Yes
Bread crumb trail in real timeYes
Daily Smart Features
CalendarYes
PasscodeYes
ConnectivityBluetooth®, ANT+®
Garmin ShareYes
Find My PhoneYes
Find My WatchYes
Morning reportYes
Red shift modeYes
Weather forecastsYes
Smart NotificationsYes
Smartphone compatibilityiPhone®, Android™
Controls smartphone musicYes
On-device Connect IQ™ StoreYes
Find My Phone during GPS activityYes
Pairs with Garmin Connect™ MobileYes
Compatible with Garmin Messenger appYes
Battery saver (customizable low power watch)Yes
Realtime settings sync with Garmin Connect™ mobileYes
View images from notifications on watch (Android™ only)Yes
Text response/reject phone call with text (Android™ only)Yes
Connect IQ™ (downloadable watch faces, data fields and apps)Yes
HIIT workoutsYes
Yoga workoutsYes
Cardio workoutsYes
Pilates workoutsYes
Strength workoutsYes
Garmin Running CoachYes
Garmin Coach - StrengthYes
Garmin Running Coach ExpertsYes
On-screen workout animationsYes
On-screen workout muscle mapsYes
Workouts for wheelchair usersYes
Garmin Coach - Prebuilt Cycling PlansYes
Daily suggested workout - Walking (duration based)Yes
Activity Tracking Features
TrueUp™Yes
Move IQ™Yes
Step counterYes
Floors climbedYes
Calories burnedYes
Distance traveledYes
Intensity minutesYes
Automatic rep countingYes
Garmin Connect™ Challenges appyes (optional Connect IQ app)
Move alerts (displays on device after a period of inactivity)Yes
Auto goal (learns your activity level and assigns a daily step goal)Yes
% HR maxYes
HR zonesYes
HR alertsYes
HRV statusYes
Manual lapYes
Auto scrollYes
HR caloriesYes
Voice alertsYes
Physio TrueUpYes
Recovery timeYes
VO2 Max (Run)Yes
Training effectYes
Workout benefitYes
Advanced workoutsYes
Interval trainingYes
GPS speed and distanceYes
Customizable data pagesYes
Touch and/or button lockYes
Activity history on watchYes
Downloadable training plansYes
Training effect (anaerobic)Yes
HRM running pace and distanceYes
Customizable activity profilesYes
Auto Pause® automatic timer haltYes
Respiration rate (during exercise)yoga, breathwork and meditation only
Auto Lap® interval tracking featureYes
HR broadcast (broadcasts HR data over ANT+® to paired devices)yes (using ANT+ or BLE)
Improved interval (includes open repeats, intervals data page, rest screen and auto detection)Yes
Workout and Training Plans
HIIT workoutsYes
Yoga workoutsYes
Cardio workoutsYes
Pilates workoutsYes
Strength workoutsYes
Garmin Running Coachyes (no strength add-on)
Garmin Running Coach ExpertsYes
Garmin Coach - Prebuilt Cycling PlansYes
Daily Suggested Workout - Running (Pace and Heart Rate Based)Yes
GymStrength, HIIT, Cardio, Elliptical Training, Stair Stepping, Indoor Rowing, Jump Roping
SwimPool Swimming, Open Water Swimming
CyclingBiking, Road Biking, Gravel Biking, Bike Touring, eBiking, Handcycling, Indoor Handcycling Indoor Biking, Cyclocross
WellnessWalking, Pilates, Yoga, Indoor Walking, Mobility
In the ringBoxing, Mixed Martial Arts
Team sportsBasketball, Volleyball, Field Hockey, Ice Hockey, Football/Soccer, American Football, Lacrosse, Rugby, Ultimate Disc, Cricket, Softball, Baseball
Motor sportsMotorcycling, Overlanding, Motocrossing, ATVing, Snowmobiling
On the waterStand Up Paddleboarding, Kayaking, Rowing, Snorkeling
Racket sportsTennis, Pickleball, Badminton, Squash, Table Tennis, Padel, Platform Tennis, Racquetball
Indoor runningTreadmill Running, Indoor Track Running
Outdoor runningRunning, Outdoor Track Running, Trail Running, Obstacle Running
Snow and winterSkiing, Snowboarding, XC Classic Skiing, XC Skate Skiing, Ice Skating, Snowshoeing
Outdoor recreationHiking, Horseback Riding, Golfing, Mountaineering, Disc Golf, Archery
Other activity profilesInline Skating
Health & Wellness Monitoring
Sleepyes (advanced)
Hydrationyes (in Garmin Connect™ and optional Connect IQ™ widget)
BreathworkYes
Fitness ageYes
Nap detectionYes
All-day stressYes
Women's healthyes (in Garmin Connect™ and optional Connect IQ™ widget)
Health snapshotYes
Respiration rateYes
Resting heart rateYes
Breathing variationsYes
Relaxation remindersYes
Abnormal heart rate alertsyes (high and low)
Relaxation breathing timerYes
Body Battery™ energy monitorYes
Wrist-based heart rate (constant, every second)Yes
GPSYes
QZSSYes
BeiDouYes
CompassYes
GLONASSYes
GalileoYes
GyroscopeYes
Thermometeryes (tempe™ sensor required)
AccelerometerYes
Ambient light sensorYes
Pulse Ox Blood Oxygen Saturation MonitorYes
Garmin Elevate™ wrist heart rate monitorYes
Safety and Tracking Features
AssistanceYes
Live Event SharingAndroid™ Only
Incident Detection during select activitiesYes
Incident detection alert on phone for wearablesYes
TrueUp™Yes
Move IQ™Yes
Step counterYes
Calories burnedYes
Distance traveledYes
Intensity minutesYes
Weight shift alertYes
Automatic rep countingYes
Wheelchair push trackerYes
Move Alert movement optionsYes
Garmin Connect™ Challenges appYes
Move alerts (displays on device after a period of inactivity)Yes
Auto goal (learns your activity level and assigns a daily step goal)Yes
Kid Activity Tracking Features
Toe-to-Toe™ Challenges appyes (optional Connect IQ Toe-to-Toe™ Challenges app)
Training, Planning and Analysis Features
% HRRYes
% HR maxYes
HR zonesYes
HR alertsYes
HRV statusYes
Manual lapYes
Rest timerYes
Auto max HRYes
Finish timeYes
HR caloriesYes
Voice alertsYes
Physio TrueUpYes
Recovery timeYes
VO2 Max (Run)Yes
Course guidanceYes
Training effectYes
Advanced workoutsYes
Interval trainingYes
Race glance/widgetYes
VO2 Max (Trail Run)Yes
GPS speed and distanceYes
Configurable lap alertsYes
Customizable data pagesYes
Touch and/or button lockYes
Activity history on watchYes
Downloadable training plansYes
Training effect (anaerobic)Yes
HRM running pace and distanceYes
Customizable activity profilesYes
Auto Pause® automatic timer haltYes
Respiration rate (during exercise)Yoga and Breathwork only
Auto Lap® interval tracking featureYes
Primary benefit (Training Effect labels)Yes
HR broadcast (broadcasts HR data over ANT+® to paired devices)Yes
Run workoutsYes
Race predictorYes
Foot pod capableYes
Running dynamicsYes
Run/Walk/Stand detectionYes
PacePro™ Pacing StrategiesYes
GPS-based distance, time and paceYes
Cadence (provides real-time number of steps per minute)Yes
Variant
ColorLunar Gold with Bone Band
Available ColorsSlate with Black Band; Metallic Pink Dawn with Bone Band; Cream Gold with French Gray Band; Lunar Gold with Bone Band; Metallic Jasper Green with Jasper Green Band; Metallic Pink Dawn with Pink Dawn Band; Slate with Pebble Gray Band
Golfing Features
Sun and moon informationyes (via Connect IQ™)
Mapping & Navigation
Compatible with Varia™ lightsYes
Speed and cadence sensor support (w/sensor)yes (using ANT+ or BLE)
Compatible with Varia™ radar (rear-facing radar)Yes
Alerts (triggers alarm when you reach goals including time, distance, heart rate or calories)Yes

Wrist Fit

Garmin Forerunner® 165

Sits best on wrists ~4561mm wide (≈ 12.016.3cm circumference).

Garmin vívoactive 6

Sits best on wrists ~4460mm wide (≈ 11.716.0cm circumference).

Frequently Asked Questions

Is the Garmin Forerunner® 165 bigger than the Garmin vívoactive 6?

The Garmin Forerunner® 165 is bigger — 43mm vs 42.2mm case width.

Which fits a smaller wrist better, the Garmin Forerunner® 165 or the Garmin vívoactive 6?

The Garmin Forerunner® 165 suits wrists around 45–61mm wide, and the Garmin vívoactive 6 around 44–60mm. The one with the smaller lower bound is the safer pick for a small wrist.

Can I see the Garmin Forerunner® 165 and Garmin vívoactive 6 side by side at true scale?

Yes — the schematics and photos above show both watches at matched scale, and our fit tool overlays each on your wrist width.

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